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Kohl Christensen figured out a way to chase waves and make a living, much like many of us do, only the waves he chases are about 6 times larger than the biggest wave we've ever encountered.  Immediately, we think of his 2019 skull-shattering wipeout at Pipeline, and next, about the organization he co-founded with friends to help people in exactly that kind of situation.  BWRAG (Big Wave Risk Assessment Group) trains and equips us to help those in need in the water and on the beach before the professionals arrive.  Enjoy Kohl's enjoyable journey in this chat with Kevin and John.

Longtime New Smyrna Beach surfer, Jim Morris, joins us for a conversation about growing up brined and seasoned in Florida waters.  He evolved into an aficionado of surfboard shaping and shapers and put his surf-to-live attitude in first position.  Everything afterward fell right into place, leaving us with a few quality stories to meander through on this podcast.  Enjoy.